I don’t know what to say about Lloyd, but I believe you’ve found something of significance. If you’re the football coach at Michigan, I fully expect you to win 75 - 80% of your games. You only have one or two bona fide contenders, year in - year out in the conference.

Barry Alvarez put Wisconsin on the map. They’re legit. Ohio State is the real deal. That’s it. After those two, it’s an annual guessing game as to who will contend in the conference. With that said, Michigan should be looking at the OSU game with an undefeated or 10-1 or 9-2 record every single season.

That’s the expectation. It is fair? I think so. It’s Michigan and it’s the Big 10. The same expectations are held in Columbus.

Now, the other thing is that the Michigan coach is not expected to beat OSU every year - but he has to win his fair share. He’d have been better off - and he’d still have a job if lost two or three to Cooper and beat Tressel two or three times - but then again, if Cooper beats Michigan, Tressel is probably still at Youngstown State.

In the final analysis, Carr did a tremendous job, but he was replaced because of his inability to beat Tressel. Everything else is secondary.